what the hell. I'll chime in as well.
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lincolnkwNipplegate. (or just look at the pretty icon and imagine him saying that to Justin)
A stupid stunt that snowballed. Keep in mind this is simply my opinion based on what little infrmation has been acquired from the media and LJ.
Who's at fault? Both of them. If it's true she came up with it, what was she thinking?? If he knew and went along with it (as his immediate remarks afterwards seemed to indicate) he was an idiot. It makes them both look bad.
The FCC. Simply doing their stated function. Yeah, it's currently a Republican administration but I find it a little difficult to believe that, under any administration, they would let something like this slide. That's what cable is for.
CBS and NFL. They are corporations looking out for their bottom line. They, unfortunately, didn't handle it very well. Spin went in the wrong direction for their needs. They are coming off as the bad guys to many.
JC. Pretty much a (relatively) innocent victim. PRetty though. SOme Girls at half time woudl have been nice to see. PRobably not his best choice considering, but he comes from a different place then most sports fans.
LJ. Some knee-jerk responses, some with no thought at all, some very well thoght out. On both sides. On no sides. On all sides. I get that the sparkly fandom is largely a younger liberal female crowd. As a 35 year old white male from an upper-middle class military family from New England who was taught in an inner-city school where I was the minority for years, my thoughts were the above. I do not share everyone's ideals, nor should they all share mine. My friends list covers both sexes, multiple sexual orientations, many races, ages from teens to forty-somethings, conservative and liberal, religious and not. That's what's so nice about LJ, it has all kinds.
I think I've lost my train of thought, that has a tendency to happen to me, unfortunately. I definitley know I'm not as smart as certain people on my flist, but I'm happy as I am. I generally don't talk politics or religion (and doubt I actually have yet) as people seem to run hot on these subjects. I shall say this once, I am a liberal-leaning moderate and an agnostic. I used to be an extreme-liberal activist and a Mormon. Things change.
A stupid stunt that snowballed. Keep in mind this is simply my opinion based on what little infrmation has been acquired from the media and LJ.
Who's at fault? Both of them. If it's true she came up with it, what was she thinking?? If he knew and went along with it (as his immediate remarks afterwards seemed to indicate) he was an idiot. It makes them both look bad.
The FCC. Simply doing their stated function. Yeah, it's currently a Republican administration but I find it a little difficult to believe that, under any administration, they would let something like this slide. That's what cable is for.
CBS and NFL. They are corporations looking out for their bottom line. They, unfortunately, didn't handle it very well. Spin went in the wrong direction for their needs. They are coming off as the bad guys to many.
JC. Pretty much a (relatively) innocent victim. PRetty though. SOme Girls at half time woudl have been nice to see. PRobably not his best choice considering, but he comes from a different place then most sports fans.
LJ. Some knee-jerk responses, some with no thought at all, some very well thoght out. On both sides. On no sides. On all sides. I get that the sparkly fandom is largely a younger liberal female crowd. As a 35 year old white male from an upper-middle class military family from New England who was taught in an inner-city school where I was the minority for years, my thoughts were the above. I do not share everyone's ideals, nor should they all share mine. My friends list covers both sexes, multiple sexual orientations, many races, ages from teens to forty-somethings, conservative and liberal, religious and not. That's what's so nice about LJ, it has all kinds.
I think I've lost my train of thought, that has a tendency to happen to me, unfortunately. I definitley know I'm not as smart as certain people on my flist, but I'm happy as I am. I generally don't talk politics or religion (and doubt I actually have yet) as people seem to run hot on these subjects. I shall say this once, I am a liberal-leaning moderate and an agnostic. I used to be an extreme-liberal activist and a Mormon. Things change.
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Date: 2004-02-07 08:14 pm (UTC)PRetty though. SOme Girls at half time woudl have been nice to see. PRobably not his best choice considering, but he comes from a different place then most sports fans.
Was that a secret message (pr, so pr) or just a sticky shift? If the former was true, you deserve smart points for just hiding it that well.
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Date: 2004-02-07 09:07 pm (UTC)My supersekrit code has been discovered!!
Heh. Nope I just type weird. Much like my thinking process.
And then don't double check, 'cause I'm lazy that way.
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Date: 2004-02-08 07:47 am (UTC)And yay for fellow new hampshire-people. I was born in framiham, ma. and moved to hudson when I was three.
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Date: 2004-02-08 03:18 pm (UTC)It's a vast difference from the Los Angeles area though.
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Date: 2004-02-07 08:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-02-07 09:08 pm (UTC)Sadly, true. Although one of my cousins seems to be handling it fine. Not for me, though.
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Date: 2004-02-07 10:16 pm (UTC)except for your demographics, as I am... none of the above.
but everything else - totally agreed with you.
and on that note... question: assuming that CBS knew nothing of the plans, I'm in the opinion that after they go through and pay a shit load of fines, they have every right to sue Janet and Justin for putting them in that position, particularly if there was a clause in the contract re: decency or whathaveyou - agree or disagree?
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Date: 2004-02-08 04:45 am (UTC)I equate it to a rude waitress. I usually don't blame the restaurant itself if my server is a bitch, but it certainly colors the experience and makes it less likely for me to come back. The restaurant should be aware of what is going on, which can sometimes be difficult. But ultimately it comes down to them.
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Date: 2004-02-08 07:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-02-08 08:01 pm (UTC)I agree entirely.